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Because our lists recently moved, there is no archive yet. There is an archive of our old Film Gimp list, and it is searchable by typing your query into the search box in the upper left hand corner of the archive page. CinePaint used to be known as Film Gimp.

Mailing List Etiquette - All Members Please Read!

The lists are unmoderated, but posting is restricted to members. That helps trap SPAM. Do not send SPAM to the list. Non-member posts are held for list manager approval (that's me, Robin Rowe). If appropriate I will probably put it through even when it is a non-member posting.

Diversity of opinion is good, but we want a civil list where everyone is treated with respect and courtesy. Those who can't state their opinions positively, or are unable to respectfully disagree with the opinions of others, will be removed. Do not make accusations. Do not call people names. Do not try to tell people what to do. Do not use fighting words such as stupid, dumb, idiot, wrong, and so forth. That is not ok even if the person you are calling stupid is yourself.

CinePaint supports multiple operating systems. Don't evangelize or state a chauvinistic opinion regarding what software others should use. Just because the CinePaint project is open source don't assume others share your political views. We are not a forum for promoting Linux or espousing free software advocacy. Do not refer to any operating systems, or anything else, by derogatory names. Do not say Windoze.

Small attachments (that's kilobytes, not megabytes) can be posted to the list, but most files should (also or instead) be submitted to Patches. Note that Patches isn't just patches. Any type of file that needs to get in queue to move into a release should go to Patches, for example, new brushes. Posting screenshots to the list is good, but they need to be lossy jpeg or gif in order to be small enough. If you want to make available a larger image put that on your Web page and give a URL, or ask me off-list to do so for you. If your attachment is too big your message will be held automatically for list manager approval. Size restrictions prevent overloading list subscribers who access via dial-up.

Please do not cross-post to gimp-developer or one of the other GIMP lists. Mentioning CinePaint there can be flamebait. There is code in common from when CinePaint branched from GIMP 1.0.4 in 1998. And, CinePaint sometimes incorporates newer GIMP code rather than code a similar feature from scratch. However, these are two separate projects, with different goals and different people. Cross-posting to gimp-developer invites noise such as, "The best idea IMHO would be to drop this silly film-gimp code duplication and help coding on gimp". If you wish to ask a GIMP question on gimp-developer feel free to do so, but please avoid mentioning us on the GIMP list. The GIMP project decided to abandon what was the Film Gimp branch in 2000. It riles some people to mention CinePaint (Film Gimp).

Every person on the list would like to help, but we are all busy. If nobody responds it may be no one knew the answer to your question, or that your question seemed confusing. Maybe your note left out necessary information or rambled. Restating your question more succinctly sometimes draws a better response. If you receive a short or incomplete answer don't feel affronted. Do not presume you know what others are thinking or what their motives are.

If you are feeling neglected or insulted do not announce that on the list. Send a private note to me off-list so I can sort out the problem.

Thanks!

Robin Rowe
Project and Lists Manager

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Questions to rower@movieeditor.com
Created November 20, 2002; updated March 11, 2003